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The Other

The Other

by David Guterson

Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group | June 2, 2009 | Trade Paperback

From the author of the bestselling Snow Falling on Cedars, a coming-of-age novel that presents two powerfully different visions of what it means to live a good life and the compromises that come with fulfillment.

John William Barry and Neil Countryman shared a love of the outdoors, trekking often into Washington''s remote backcountry where they had to rely on their wits-and each other-to survive. Soon after graduating from college, Neil sets out on a path that will lead him toward a life as a devoted schoolteacher and family man. But John William makes a radically different choice, dropping out of college and moving deep into the woods. When he enlists Neil to help him disappear completely, Neil finds himself drawn into a web of agonizing responsibility, deceit, and tragedy-one that will finally break open with a wholly unexpected, life-altering revelation.

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    MacFly

    4 years ago

    The Other is the first book I have read by David Guterson. Unfortunately, it is likely the last. The story centers around two men who become friends in university. One becomes a hermit living in the woods while the other continues to visit and befriend him for many years. When the hermit dies, he leaves a fortune to his friend. The author uses very verbose language with many pages not having a single paragraph break. I found this a bit overwhelming and, overall, the story was very slow. Now at the end of the book, I am not really even sure what the point of the book was. I truly enjoy most books that I read. I can appreciate the writing ability of the author but I didn’t enjoy this book.

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From the author of the bestselling Snow Falling on Cedars, a coming-of-age novel that presents two powerfully different visions of what it means to live a good life and the compromises that come with fulfillment.

John William Barry and Neil Countryman shared a love of the outdoors, trekking often into Washington''s remote backcountry where they had to rely on their wits-and each other-to survive. Soon after graduating from college, Neil sets out on a path that will lead him toward a life as a devoted schoolteacher and family man. But John William makes a radically different choice, dropping out of college and moving deep into the woods. When he enlists Neil to help him disappear completely, Neil finds himself drawn into a web of agonizing responsibility, deceit, and tragedy-one that will finally break open with a wholly unexpected, life-altering revelation.

From the Jacket

"Gorgeous, haunting.... A deeply considered tragedy of social alienation and hubris."
-The Washington Post Book World

"A finely observed rumination on the necessary imperfection of life. . . . [Guterson's] books keep getting better."
-The New York Times Book Review

"Elegiac. . . . An exploration of how one should live in a flawed world, the choices we make and the values they reflect."
-San Francisco Chronicle

"Mesmerizing, even heart-breaking. . . . Guterson explores the fissures in our divided souls. . . . Vivid."
-The Seattle Times

"Excellent.... As humane as it is compelling."
-The Philadelphia Inquirer

"Guterson's descriptions of light and shadow, of fir canopies and forest floors, are as strong as they were in Snow Falling on Cedars, dotting the pages like beautifully muted piano chords.... At its core The Other is a book about the roads we choose, and the subsequent regrets and what-ifs and I-wonders."
-The Oregonian

"Guterson creates a visceral world.... The Other is ripe with color and sound and texture."
-Chicago Sun-Times

"EW Pick. In 1972, two Seattle teens, working-class Irish boy Neil Countryman and tortured trust funder John William Barry, bond over their love of adventuring in the Northwest's vast wilderness. Countryman, who continues on to college, marriage, and a career teaching high school English, narrates the story of helping Barry drop out of society to live a hermit's life 'without hypocrisy' in a remote, self-excavated cave. [This plot] is the perfect scaffolding to support Guterson's absorbing meditation on what it means to grow up, sell out, and lead an honest life. A."
-Karen Karbo, Entertainment Weekly

"The Other features an unclaimed $440 million inheritance and a mummified corpse found in Washington's Olympic Mountains, but it's no murder mystery. Guterson uses these circumstances as the backdrop to [a] tale of two Seattle friends [who] forge an unlikely friendship . . . With prose that's as careful and quiet as a mountain lion, The Other asks, and helps answer, two of life's most perplexing questions: How do we live in an imperfect world, and what are our obligations to those we love?"
-Steven Rinella, Outside

"[Guterson's] most brilliant and provocative novel yet. . . . He presents the reader with the quintessential questions of value and choice that shape life. It contains all the elements of youth, idealism and compromise, by paralleling two very different lives."
-Bill Duncan, Roseburg (Oregon) News-Review

"PEN/Faulkner Award winner Guterson constructs a sensationalistic story that in other hands might have emerged as a page-turning potboiler. Here, events unfold in exquisitely refined prose, which creates a plot as believable as any quotidian workday, while evoking an unforgettable sense of place in its depiction of Washington State's wilderness. . . . Bonded by a mutual love of the outdoors, working-class Neil [Countryman] and wealthy John William Barry become lifelong friends despite cultural disparities. The bond holds as their adult paths diverge, Neil choosing to teach while John William retreats to a hermit's life in remote woodlands. When Neil agrees to help his friend disappear, haunting questions of values, responsibility, and choice leave Neil-and the readers of this provocative fiction-to ponder the proper definition of a good life. Recommended."
-Starr E. Smith, Library Journal

"Life presents crucial choices, although often they are not recognized as crucial at the time. Pick this course, choose that person, follow this instinct, postpone that decision-all can have profound effects on a life. This theme is the underpinning of David Guterson's strong and evocative new novel, The Other [which] uses the unlikely friendship of two Seattle men to examine such important concerns as the formation of character, the influence of family, the choice of vocation, the allure of alternatives. . . . The Other has its roots in Robert Frost's much-quoted poem, 'The Road Not Taken.' Guterson underscores that link by having the novel's narrator-English teacher Neil Countryman-do an annual recitation of the Frost poem at high school graduation. . . . What shines brightly throughout The Other is Guterson's resonant ability to evoke the delights and contradictions of Seattle and its surrounding territory. This novel is a native son's love song to the Seattle in the later stages of the 20th century. A greasy burger at Dick's is celebrated, as is the grandeur of the North Cascades. In Countryman and [his best friend, John William] Barry, Guterson captures many conflicting courses in Seattle life (and perhaps in his own character): city vs. country, civilization vs. wilderness, comfort vs. hardship, constancy vs. change, attachment vs. disengagement. . . . This fine, searching novel represents the mature talent of one of the Northwest's leading writers."
-John Marshall, Seattle Post-Intelligencer

"[A] must-read . . . The story of two boys, John William and Neil . . . John William pulls a Holden Caulfield and decides to turn his back on all his privilege and move deep into the woods. Neil is then left to erase John William's trail-and see how long he can keep John William's new life as a hermit secret."
-Marisa LaScala, Westchester Magazine

"The provocative tale of two childhood buddies who take very different paths as adults. . . . John William Barry decides to drop out of society entirely [and] enlists Neil [Countryman]'s help to disappear, which turns out to be a complicated and tragic endeavor."
-New York Post

"Involving . . . Guterson follows two friends as their lives take different courses. Neil Countryman and John William Barry first meet at a high-school track event in the 1970s. . . . While Neil embarks on a traditional life, pursuing a college degree and meeting a girl while backpacking in Europe, John William-a wealthy, misunderstood only child-retreats from society, excavating a cave in a remote part of the Hoh Valley where he hopes to live free from the pressures of modern civilization. Once Neil realizes his friend is serious about his Thoreauesque endeavor, he sets about helping John William and becoming an accomplice in his plans to conceal his whereabouts from his family. As the story shifts between past and present, Neil tries desperately to understand the friend he feels responsibility and kinship for even as their lives drastically diverge. . . . Guterson's novel of friendship and ideas is a moving meditation on choices, sacrifices, and compromises made in search of an authentic life."
-Kristine Huntley, Booklist

"In this philosophically provocative and psychologically astute novel, two boyhood friends take very different paths: The richer one renounces all earthly entanglements, while the poorer one becomes unexpectedly wealthy beyond imagination. Once again, Guterson writes of the natural splendor of his native Pacific Northwest, though the ambiguity of isolating oneself in nature, rejecting family and society in the process, provides a tension that powers the narrative momentum to the final pages. There are parallels between this story and Jon Krakauer's nonfiction book Into the Wild, as the novel relates the life and death of John William Barry . . . who forsakes his elite destiny to achieve posthumous notoriety as 'the hermit of the Hoh.' What distinguishes Guterson's novel is the narrative voice of Neil Countryman, who has been Barry's best and maybe only friend . . . When a novelist scores as popular a breakthrough as Guterson did with Snow Falling on Cedars, a long shadow is cast over subsequent efforts. Here, he succeeds in outdistancing that shadow."
-Kirkus Reviews (starred)

About the Author

David Guterson is the author of three previous novels and a story collection, The Country Ahead of Us, The Country Behind. His debut novel, the #1 best-selling Snow Falling on Cedars, received the PEN/Faulkner Award and the American Booksellers Association Book of the Year Award. He is the author of East of the Mountains and Our Lady of the Forest.

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David Guterson is the author of three previous novels and a story collection, The Country Ahead of Us, The Country Behind. His debut novel, the #1 best-selling Snow Falling on Cedars, received the PEN/Faulkner Award and the American Booksellers Association Book of the Year Award. He is the author of East of the Mountains and Our Lady of the Forest.

1. Neil describes John William at sixteen as "the rich kid who hates and loves himself equally. The contrarian who hears his conscience calling in the same way schizophrenics hear voices, so that, for him, there''s no not listening" [p. 10]. Have you encountered people like John William in your own life? In literature? What makes him a believable character, rather than a stereotype?

2. Does Neil also represent a familiar type or character? What makes him interesting or appealing to you? To John William? What distinctive characteristics (strengths and flaws alike) inform the way he tells John William''s story? Consider the qualities that Neil admires in John William in contrast to how he describes himself.

3. Neil and John William are brought together by their love of the outdoors and in particular for hiking in unmapped areas. Does John William spur Neil to take risks he otherwise would avoid? What aspects of their feelings about risk come to light when they get lost in the forest [pp. 29-34]? In what ways do their attitudes about the adventure echo their feelings about their lives in general?

4. To what extent do John William''s activities at Reed [pp. 70-83] as well as his decision to drop out of college reflect the cultural and social milieu of the 1970s? Does Cindy''s rejection of him mark a significant turning point for John William, or does it simply reinforce his perceptions of the world?

5. How does his upbringing affect John William? Would he have turned out differently if Ginnie had remained with the family? Does her decision to leave make her the villain of the story? Are there aspects of her conduct that evoke your empathy or sympathy? Is Rand oblivious or indifferent to his son''s problems or is he incapable of dealing with them? How do Neil''s portraits of them change and deepen as the novel unfolds? Does he become more accepting of the Barrys'' flaws, and if so, why?

6. Throughout The Other, there are references to gnosticism, a philosophical and religious movement that emerged during the early Christian era. A central theme of its teaching is that the world is imperfect, but each of us has a divine spark within that can ultimately free us from the evils of the material world. Does John William''s obsession with gnosticism enhance your understanding of his motivations and behavior? What other references to literature and philosophy in the novel illuminate the themes Guterson is exploring? Discuss, for example, the references to Emily Dickinson and Thoreau [p. 86], to Robert Frost [passim], and to Rudyard Kipling''s "The Miracle of Purun Bhagat" [p. 167].

7. What effect does Neil achieve by alternating accounts of his own experiences with his reports on John William? How do their encounters as they grow older illustrate Neil''s contention that "in a friendship, you don''t so much change terms as observe terms changing" [p.112]?

8. How do you feel about Neil''s complicity in enabling John William to escape from the real world? What moral imperatives underlie his actions? Is he guilty of betraying the fundamental ethical obligations he has as a member of society?

9. In his course, Nature in Literature, Neil tells his students, "poetry and nature are occasions for introspection, but not necessarily for happiness" [p. 28]. Is John William seduced by a naïve, romantic view of the relationship between man and nature? Is he prepared for life in the wilderness? What does he learn about his strengths and limitations as he struggles with nature''s unpredictable, difficult, and often cruel challenges?

10. Does his flight from civilization bring John William the spiritual purity he is searching for? Could he have found another way to express his antipathy to the hypocrisy he sees in the ordinary world? Do you think that he knowingly set out on a path to self-destruction?

11. Is the relationship between Neil and John William a healthy one? What emotional satisfaction does it provide for each of them? Does Neil''s role in John William''s life influence his behavior as husband, father, and teacher?

12. Was Neil ultimately right to keep John William''s secret for so long? How do you think John William''s mother and father would answer?

13. Neil writes, "In the newspaper reports on the hermit of the Hoh, an abiding derangement is the heart of the matter. That''s wrong" [p. 112]. Does Neil''s account of what happens to John William justify this point of view? Would a more objective observer draw the same conclusion from the evidence Neil provides?

14. How does The Other compare to other accounts, either fiction or nonfiction, about people who have exiled themselves from society? If you have read Into the Wild (or have seen the movie), what similarities do you see between John William and Chris McCandless? Discuss the diverse reasons, either rational or not, a person might have for abandoning a comfortable life for one filled with risk and danger. Discuss how Guterson''s decision to tell such a story in the form of a novel differs from Krakauer''s nonfiction approach.

15. This is a book chiefly about a friendship between two boys, yet in many ways the women they love shape the men they become. What roles do the women in the novel-Neil''s mother, who dies when he is in high school; John William''s mother, who abandons him when he is still a child; Neil''s loving and supportive wife; and John William''s college girlfriend-play in the lives of the two main characters?

16. How does inheriting John William''s money change things for Neil-if it does at all? Do you think that it is inheriting the money that allows Neil to finally devote himself to writing, or is it the chance to get John William''s story off his chest? Would John William want a book written about him? Is Neil exploiting his friend in any way?

Trade Paperback

272 Pages, 5.16 x 8 x 0.83 in

June 2, 2009

Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group

English


0307274810
9780307274816

From the Critics

"Gorgeous, haunting.... A deeply considered tragedy of social alienation and hubris."-The Washington Post Book World"A finely observed rumination on the necessary imperfection of life. . . . [Guterson''s] books keep getting better." -The New York Times Book Review"Elegiac. . . . An exploration of how one should live in a flawed world, the choices we make and the values they reflect." -San Francisco Chronicle"Mesmerizing, even heart-breaking. . . . Guterson explores the fissures in our divided souls. . . . Vivid." -The Seattle Times"Excellent.... As humane as it is compelling."-The Philadelphia Inquirer"Guterson's descriptions of light and shadow, of fir canopies and forest floors, are as strong as they were in Snow Falling on Cedars, dotting the pages like beautifully muted piano chords.... At its core The Other is a book about the roads we choose, and the subsequent regrets and what-ifs and I-wonders." -The Oregonian"Guterson creates a visceral world.... The Other is ripe with color and sound and texture."-Chicago Sun-Times"EW Pick. In 1972, two Seattle teens, working-class Irish boy Neil Countryman and tortured trust funder John William Barry, bond over their love of adventuring in the Northwest's vast wilderness. Countryman, who continues on to college, marriage, and a career teaching high school English, narrates the story of helping Barry drop out of society to live a hermit's life 'without hypocrisy' in a remote, self-excavated cave. [This plot] is the perfect scaffolding to support Guterson's absorbing meditation on what it means to grow up, sell out, and lead an honest life. A."-Karen Karbo, Entertainment Weekly"The Other features an unclaimed $440 million inheritance and a mummified corpse found in Washington's Olympic Mountains, but it's no murder mystery. Guterson uses these circumstances as the backdrop to [a] tale of two Seattle friends [who] forge an unlikely friendship . . . With prose that's as careful and quiet as a mountain lion, The Other asks, and helps answer, two of life's most perplexing questions: How do we live in an imperfect world, and what are our obligations to those we love?"-Steven Rinella, Outside"[Guterson's] most brilliant and provocative novel yet. . . . He presents the reader with the quintessential questions of value and choice that shape life. It contains all the elements of youth, idealism and compromise, by paralleling two very different lives."-Bill Duncan, Roseburg (Oregon) News-Review"PEN/Faulkner Award winner Guterson constructs a sensationalistic story that in other hands might have emerged as a page-turning potboiler. Here, events unfold in exquisitely refined prose, which creates a plot as believable as any quotidian workday, while evoking an unforgettable sense of place in its depiction of Washington State's wilderness. . . . Bonded by a mutual love of the outdoors, working-class Neil [Countryman] and wealthy John William Barry become lifelong friends despite cultural disparities. The bond holds as their adult paths diverge, Neil choosing to teach while John William retreats to a hermit's life in remote woodlands. When Neil agrees to help his friend disappear, haunting questions of values, responsibility, and choice leave Neil-and the readers of this provocative fiction-to ponder the proper definition of a good life. Recommended."-Starr E. Smith, Library Journal"Life presents crucial choices, although often they are not recognized as crucial at the time. Pick this course, choose that person, follow this instinct, postpone that decision-all can have profound effects on a life. This theme is the underpinning of David Guterson's strong and evocative new novel, The Other [which] uses the unlikely friendship of two Seattle men to examine such important concerns as the formation of character, the influence of family, the choice of vocation, the allure of alternatives. . . . The Other has its roots in Robert Frost's much-quoted poem, 'The Road Not Taken.' Guterson underscores that link by having the novel's narrator-English teacher Neil Countryman-do an annual recitation of the Frost poem at high school graduation. . . . What shines brightly throughout The Other is Guterson's resonant ability to evoke the delights and contradictions of Seattle and its surrounding territory. This novel is a native son's love song to the Seattle in the later stages of the 20th century. A greasy burger at Dick's is celebrated, as is the grandeur of the North Cascades. In Countryman and [his best friend, John William] Barry, Guterson captures many conflicting courses in Seattle life (and perhaps in his own character): city vs. country, civilization vs. wilderness, comfort vs. hardship, constancy vs. change, attachment vs. disengagement. . . . This fine, searching novel represents the mature talent of one of the Northwest's leading writers."-John Marshall, Seattle Post-Intelligencer"[A] must-read . . . The story of two boys, John William and Neil . . . John William pulls a Holden Caulfield and decides to turn his back on all his privilege and move deep into the woods. Neil is then left to erase John William's trail-and see how long he can keep John William's new life as a hermit secret."-Marisa LaScala, Westchester Magazine"The provocative tale of two childhood buddies who take very different paths as adults. . . . John William Barry decides to drop out of society entirely [and] enlists Neil [Countryman]'s help to disappear, which turns out to be a complicated and tragic endeavor."-New York Post"Involving . . . Guterson follows two friends as their lives take different courses. Neil Countryman and John William Barry first meet at a high-school track event in the 1970s. . . . While Neil embarks on a traditional life, pursuing a college degree and meeting a girl while backpacking in Europe, John William-a wealthy, misunderstood only child-retreats from society, excavating a cave in a remote part of the Hoh Valley where he hopes to live free from the pressures of modern civilization. Once Neil realizes his friend is serious about his Thoreauesque endeavor, he sets about helping John William and becoming an accomplice in his plans to conceal his whereabouts from his family. As the story shifts between past and present, Neil tries desperately to understand the friend he feels responsibility and kinship for even as their lives drastically diverge. . . . Guterson's novel of friendship and ideas is a moving meditation on choices, sacrifices, and compromises made in search of an authentic life."-Kristine Huntley, Booklist"In this philosophically provocative and psychologically astute novel, two boyhood friends take very different paths: The richer one renounces all earthly entanglements, while the poorer one becomes unexpectedly wealthy beyond imagination. Once again, Guterson writes of the natural splendor of his native Pacific Northwest, though the ambiguity of isolating oneself in nature, rejecting family and society in the process, provides a tension that powers the narrative momentum to the final pages. There are parallels between this story and Jon Krakauer's nonfiction book Into the Wild, as the novel relates the life and death of John William Barry . . . who forsakes his elite destiny to achieve posthumous notoriety as 'the hermit of the Hoh.' What distinguishes Guterson's novel is the narrative voice of Neil Countryman, who has been Barry's best and maybe only friend . . . When a novelist scores as popular a breakthrough as Guterson did with Snow Falling on Cedars, a long shadow is cast over subsequent efforts. Here, he succeeds in outdistancing that shadow."-Kirkus Reviews (starred)

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