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Format:Trade Paperback

Dimensions:5.38 x 8.06 x 0.93 in

Published:February 9, 2009

Publisher:Harpercollins Canada, Limited

The following ISBNs are associated with this title:
ISBN - 10:1554684005
ISBN - 13:9781554684007

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Invisioning a future in which the Christian church plays a viable and transformative role in shaping society, Gretta Vosper argues that if the church is to survive at all, the heart of faith must undergo a radical change. Vosper, founder of the Canadian Centre for Progressive Christianity and a minister in Toronto, believes that what will save the church is an emphasis on just and compassionate living-a new and wholly humanistic approach to religion. Without this reform, the church as we know it faces extinction.

Vosper addresses the issues of spiritual fulfillment, comfort and connection in the modern world through a thoughtful and assionate discourse. She urges a renewal of old doctrines but does so with dignity and respect. Offering difficult but penetrating insights into a new generation of spiritually aware -- and spiritually open -- people, With or Without God offers a startling model for a renewed church as a leader in ethics, fostering relationships, meaning and values that are solidly rooted in our own selves.

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?Vosper?s book exemplifies her own criteria for a good church: open-mindedness, passion, creativity and intellectual rigour.?

( Joanna Manning, author of is the Pope Catholic? on The Magdalene Moment)

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Michael Stewart
Author is more like an Agnostic.

This review is from: With or Without God (Hardcover)

4 months ago

Author is more like an Agnostic. She is not a true christian. Does not believe in God and Jesus, just the moral concept of God. It is not hard to tell that she does not have a relationship with God. She does not seem to get that fact that you have a relationship with God not a Religion. Her religion to me is one of a "New World Order", one of the Anti Christ..coming to a city near you.
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Michael Stewart
Author is more a Agnostic - Humanist that Christian

4 months ago

Author is more like an Agnostic. She is not a true christian. Does not believe in God and Jesus, just the moral concept of God. It is not hard to tell that she does not have a relationship with God. She does not seem to get that fact that you have a relationship with God not a Religion. Her religion to me is one of a "New World Order", one of the Anti Christ..coming to a city near you.
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dionysius
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a breath of fresh air

This review is from: With or Without God (Hardcover)

2 years ago

It should come as no surprise that, today, we are witnessing a problematic and dangerous shift in focus about belief (or non-belief) in God. Gretta Vosper’s book, With Or Without God will be dismissed by those for whom God is not to be debated but defended at all costs. But God has become a problem for many others. A significant number of these persist in their “spiritual search” within the context of today’s resurgence of religious fundamentalism and the latest critical and scientific thinking… + read more
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Nathan Banks
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Gretta Vosper does not prove her point

This review is from: With or Without God (Hardcover)

2 years ago

C. S. Lewis, a scholar Catholics, Protestants, and Hollywood admire, used the term "Chronological Snobbery" to refer to the tendency people have to believe something is true simply because it is contemporary. Logically, each argument should be assessed according to its own merits and weaknesess instead. Vosper's book speaks as if contemporary liberal scholars are right simply because they are contemporary. For example, Vosper says that the resurrection of Jesus was not necessarily an… + read more
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- ray barriere
  
  I don't think this fellow did any more than briefly skirt through this book and his comments do not address the books contents. He is just reafirming his ... + read more
  
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Peter Cantelon
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An Inconsistent Effort

This review is from: With or Without God (Hardcover)

2 years ago

Canadian United Church pastor (Westhill United Church in Toronto - www.warmplace.ca ) and now author Gretta Vosper's book, titled With or Without God should really be titled Without God because that's essentially where it leads; another fitting title would be Throwing the Baby (Jesus) Out With the Bath Water. By the end of the book Vosper describes the heritage of Christianity (and essentially all forms of belief in the supernatural) as human dreams and nothing more. There is no room for God in… + read more
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- Stuart Walker
  
  Take a deep, deep breath. Now, re-read your own comments and see if you are not proving her point?
  
  2 years ago
- Peter Cantelon
  
  Well - I took a deep breath and only came to see a group of people who, in criticizing the perspectives of some are not capable of being on the receiving ... + read more
  
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iwonder
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This is an amazing book!

This review is from: With or Without God (Hardcover)

2 years ago

Reverend Gretta Vosper is the minister of West Hill United Church in Scarborough, and the founder and Chair of the Canadian Centre for Progressive Christianity. Gretta has drawn the ire of many traditional church folks because of the way she is "pushing the envelope" of what it means to be the Christian Church in the 21st century. I have always felt an affinity for Gretta Vosper for her honesty, her sincerity, and for the courage and integrity of her search for meaning and personal truth, no… + read more
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