Socrates' Request And The Educational Narrative Of The Timaeus by Charles IvesSocrates' Request And The Educational Narrative Of The Timaeus by Charles Ives

Socrates' Request And The Educational Narrative Of The Timaeus

byCharles Ives

Hardcover | May 2, 2017

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Timaeus is not an independent work. Rather, it is the premier dialogue in an unfinished trilogy that also includes Critias, of which we have only a fragment, and Hermocrates, which is forecast in Critias but was presumably never written. There is demand, and has been for some time now, for an account of the relevance between the extant parts of the trilogy, namely the pertinence of Timaeus' cosmology to Critias' war story. Over time this demand has been refined. There is now a more specific interest in the relevance of the cosmology to what is commonly known as "Socrates' Request"-that is, what Socrates is asking of his interlocutors at the outset of the trilogy. While Charles Ives certainly addresses the former, more general demand, the primary concern in this book is with the latter, given the obvious aptness of Critias' contribution. Socrates, at least in part, is asking for a story about a war, and Critias provides it. What is far from obvious is how Timaeus' contribution fits into this picture. In order to illuminate the nature of this contribution, Ives first establishes that Socrates is asking for an encomium with two areas of focus, which will be taken up by Critias and Timaeus. Critias will speak on war-more precisely, on the war between ancient Athens and Atlantis. Timaeus will speak on the warriors' education as philosophers, and in particular on the formation and nature of the philosophical soul. To show the relevance of Timaeus' speech to the request, Ives highlights the educational aspects of the dialogue, charting the progress of an educational program that aims at health. The book especially focuses on the convalescence of intellect, which ushers in discussions of the medical dimensions of Timaeus' physics; the markedly Platonic project of becoming like god; and the comprehensively philosophical soul that leads its possessor to success on the battlefield. Socrates' Request and the Educational Narrative of the Timaeus is written for those interested in ancient philosophy and philosophy of education.
Charles Ives is lecturer at the University of Washington.
Title:Socrates' Request And The Educational Narrative Of The TimaeusFormat:HardcoverDimensions:128 pages, 9.46 × 6.16 × 0.63 inPublished:May 2, 2017Publisher:Lexington BooksLanguage:English

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Table of Contents

AcknowledgementsIntroduction1. Socrates' Request: Encomium, Education, and War2. The Educational Program of the Timaeus in Outline: Medicine, Cause, and the Tripartite Structure of Timaeus' Speech3. Framing the Educational Narrative: Becoming Like God in Two Tasks4. Motivating Education: Incarnation and Becoming Emphron5. The Intellectual for the Sake of the Psycho-Political: Applied Mathematics, Force, and the Two Senses of Philosophia6. Epilogue: Philosophy and the Warrior

Editorial Reviews

Charles Ives' Socrates' Request is a clear and convincing explanation of the structure of Plato's Timaeus as well as a persuasive argument that the education of philosophical warriors is a central theme of the dialogue. While making his case the author discusses many subjects of interest to students of the Timaeus, and his treatment of the relevant material is as thorough as it is intellectually stimulating.